Wisconsin 
  Lawyer
  Vol. 81, No. 4, April 
2008
Profile
Putting Out the Fires of Hate
Through storytelling, attorney Timothy Scott takes his listeners 
inside one of the most hateful episodes in human history - while also 
asking them to examine 
the roots and consequences of hate in our world today.
 
Sidebar:
by Dianne Molvig
On a January morning in Medford, Wis., attorney Timothy Scott stands 
at the front of 
a room filled with some 100 people. As he relates details about a series 
of brutal 
murders, he pauses occasionally for a few seconds to allow his listeners 
to absorb what 
they're hearing. Silence hangs in the air until he resumes speaking. 
     Contrary to what you might think, the event unfolding here is 
not a homicide 
trial. The setting is not a courtroom, but a classroom. And Scott is 
neither a prosecutor nor 
a criminal defense lawyer, but a lawyer focusing on bankruptcy and 
municipal law in 
his practice at Bakke Norman S.C., New Richmond.

Tim 
Scott
 
     The silence that hovers in the room during Scott's pauses is 
sustained by a roomful 
of Medford seventh- and eighth-graders. That may seem incredible to any 
adult who's 
spent time amid gatherings of 12- and 13-year-olds. But these young 
people are listening 
intently to Scott's two-part, three-and-a-half-hour-long presentation 
about one of 
the worst crimes in human history: the Holocaust perpetrated by Nazi 
Germany.     
     Scott's purpose, however, is to deliver more than a history 
lesson, as suggested 
by the title of his presentation - "The Holocaust: Its Relevance 
Today." It's part 
history lesson, part examination of contemporary society. Scott tells 
his audiences, 
usually seventh- to 12th-graders, "I don't believe the Holocaust is 
lame history. Nor do I 
think we should shut up about it and move on. What does the Holocaust 
say to us today?"
     With that overarching question, he asks audience members to 
consider how the 
specter of the Holocaust persists and spawns hateful actions in today's 
world - not only in 
such faraway places as the Congo or Darfur, but also in their own 
communities and schools 
- and in each person individually. 
     Scott presents this message about 60 times a year to students in 
Minnesota and 
Wisconsin middle and high schools. He has been doing this for about 17 
years and has found 
he strikes a chord in his young audiences, as evidenced by their 
responses. 
     That January day in Medford, for instance, two eighth-grade boys 
came up to 
Scott after his presentation to shake his hand and thank him. "This 
hits you right here," 
said one of the boys as he struck the middle of his chest with his hand. 
     Sometimes Scott gets standing ovations from students at the end 
of his talk, and 
he always finds their written responses powerful. These come to him in 
the form of essays 
he asks the students to write after his visit, which schools forward to 
him later.
For example, some years ago one 11th grader wrote:
     "When you began today's lecture, I believed all of the 
ideology concerning the 
Nazis and the Holocaust was a big joke. When I would walk into German 
class, I would say 
[to the teacher], `Sieg Heil. Heil Hitler' or `Guten Tag, mein Fuhrer.' 
Now I don't 
think I'll be doing that."
An eighth-grade student wrote:
     "Ever since you talked to us, I've been thinking about 
the candle, that if we find 
a flame [of hate] burning inside of us, we should blow it out. I have 
made a late 
New Year's resolution to blow out that flame."
  Beginning with a Book
When Scott himself was an eighth-grader in Medford, he stumbled upon 
a book 
entitled Auschwitz: A Doctor's Eyewitness 
Account, by Miklos Nyiszli, a Hungarian Jew. Once 
Scott started reading it, "I couldn't put it down," he 
recalls. "I was mesmerized by what 
was described in there. I had this question: `How could so many people 
have gotten so 
involved in such horrendous evil?' I remember swearing to myself that 
someday I would 
go see where this happened."
Students at Van Brunt Middle School, Horicon, put themselves inside 
the story of the Holocaust as attorney Timothy Scott asks them to think 
about how hate touches their lives today. 
 
     He kept that promise. While he was a student at St. John's 
University in 
Collegeville, Minn., where he majored in German and humanities, he spent 
a semester studying in 
Austria. He visited the concentration camps at Dachau, Germany, and 
Mauthausen, Austria. 
"I spent an entire day wandering through Dachau asking `Why?'" 
he recalls.
     He was back in Europe to visit these and other camps in the 
summer of 1983. By 
that time, he'd become a high school German teacher at St. Lawrence 
Seminary in Mt. Calvary, 
 where years before he'd been a student and considered a vocation in the 
priesthood.
     Eventually he decided to become a lawyer, like his father and 
three of his 
siblings. After graduating from the University of Minnesota Law School 
in 1988, he got a 
fellowship to study German law and earned his LL.M. degree at 
Eberhard-Karls Universität, 
Tübingen, Germany. He lived there for two years and continued to 
explore Holocaust history.
     Back in Wisconsin, various groups invited Scott to talk about 
the concentration 
camps he'd visited. His presentations to school groups became a fairly 
regular activity in 
the early 1990s, when Scott was a law clerk for Judge Thomas Utschig at 
the U.S. 
Bankruptcy Court in Eau Claire. He became friends with a local high 
school German teacher, who 
asked Scott to speak to his classes. 
     "One teacher talked to another, and the calls started 
coming in," he says. The 
word got out to still more teachers when Scott spoke at teachers' 
conventions in Eau Claire.
     In 1994, Scott joined the Bakke Norman firm, which has a long 
tradition of 
community service. To honor George Norman, who died in 1994, the firm 
launched a public 
lecture series focusing on human rights issues. Scott was an organizer 
for the lectures, 
which featured such speakers as Alfons Heck, a general in the Hitler 
youth organization; 
Arun Gandhi, grandson of Mohandas Gandhi; Martin Luther King III; and 
Sister Helen Prejean 
of Dead Man Walking fame. 
     While Sister Prejean was in Wisconsin in late 1999 to give a 
lecture, she did an 
interview with a Twin Cities television station. She suggested to the 
television 
reporters that they talk to Scott about his efforts to spread awareness 
about the Holocaust. 
     Not long after that, the station did a five-minute segment about 
Scott on the 
evening news, followed by a morning show with viewer call-ins. That led 
to more requests 
pouring in from schools wanting to hear his presentation. "I got 
inundated," Scott says.
     From mid-November to mid-May each year, Scott presents two talks 
a week, on 
average, to school audiences. Schools are not his only venue. He's also 
spoken to 
professional organizations, church groups, teacher in-service trainings, 
social workers, college 
students, and prison inmates.
     He emphasizes that he can do this only because of the support 
from his colleagues 
at Bakke Norman and the nature of his work schedule. As a municipal 
lawyer, much of his 
work involves attending evening municipal board meetings, allowing him 
to give daytime 
presentations at schools. He relinquished his partnership in the firm 
several years ago so 
he could continue to do his presentations, while still practicing law. 
  Creating a Mental Movie
Scott's program has evolved over the years, but it's always relied 
heavily on putting 
the listener inside the story of the Holocaust. He uses only a few 
visuals, preferring to 
let listeners create their own mental images as the story unfolds. 
     "Storytelling is incredibly effective with all ages," 
Scott observes. "Young 
people often write to me and say, `I went home that night and thought I 
had watched a movie.'"
     He tells his audiences that during the Holocaust the Nazis 
murdered an estimated 7 
to 10 million Jews, gays, Romani, and members of other targeted groups. 
But then he 
brings that statistic down to the experiences of one individual. In the 
story, he puts the 
listener in the shoes of a 10-year-old Jewish youngster living in a 
Ukrainian village, 
leaving the listener to choose the gender and other traits as he or she 
creates mental 
images.
     As the story begins, the 10-year-old hears the fearful 
whisperings of his or her 
parents, when they think their children are out of earshot, about 
violence against Jews 
and others in Germany. When the protagonist is a bit older, the mother 
tells 
about Krystallnacht, a night in 1938 when the Nazis dragged Jews from 
their beds and 
killed them in the streets and destroyed some 8,000 Jewish businesses 
and 1,000 synagogues. 
     By the time the story's main character is nearing high school 
graduation, all Jews 
are banned from universities, dashing his or her dream of becoming a 
doctor. Then one day 
the entire family gets orders to report to the town square for 
"resettlement." Through 
two hours of storytelling, Scott takes the listener into the horrors of 
the cattle car 
and the death camp, through the eyes of the story's young central 
character. 
     Early on in presenting to school classes, Scott recognized the 
need to add a 
second component to his program. This stemmed out of "having open 
eyes and ears while living 
in Wisconsin," he says. "I'd hear comments about the Hmong, or 
the blacks, or the 
Indians, or the gays - you name it - often from people I'd never have 
expected to say such 
things. It shocked me at times. And I thought, `Wait a minute. That's 
how it started in 
Germany.'" 
  From History to Current Events
"Gays and lesbians are wrong and they shouldn't be in the 
U.S. Catholics, I feel 
sorry for them, because they don't believe in the real God - Jesus 
Christ and God. I'm 
not really racist, but I dislike Indians today 
 Indians shouldn't 
be in 
Wisconsin." - excerpt from eighth-grader's essay
"I see the spirit of the Holocaust every day. People are 
calling people fags, 
niggers, and losers. They call me that, sometimes every day. And I know 
how those others feel; 
it hurts. I mean people are teasing others so bad that they don't feel 
they deserve to 
live anymore, so they commit suicide." - excerpt from 
ninth-grader's essay
     The second part of Scott's program focuses on the "flames 
of hate," as he 
describes them, that rage today close to home. To illustrate examples, 
he reads aloud from 
newspaper clippings about recent occurrences in Wisconsin and 
neighboring states, as well 
as from students' essays from other schools - or even from written 
threats he's 
received from a few students. He forewarns his audience members they're 
about to hear 
offensive material, but he doesn't censor because eliminating offensive 
words often would 
make sentences unintelligible.
     Scott remembers one incident in a small-town high school in 
western Wisconsin when 
he was reading aloud from a Madison newspaper story about a group of 
thugs who set out, 
they said, "to beat the s*** out of that faggot." Four 
11th-grade boys in Scott's 
audience broke out in raucous laughter, something he says happens 
rarely. He paused for a 
few seconds, said nothing, and continued recounting examples of other 
episodes of hate, 
prejudice, and racism happening in our state or nearby.
     As he did so, he became aware that something else was happening 
in the room, 
although at first he wasn't sure what it was. Then he noticed two Hmong 
girls - the only two 
in the room - who were crying. Clearly, the racist remarks and incidents 
they were 
hearing about were all too familiar in their own experiences.
     "Their crying became more obvious and pronounced," 
Scott recalls. "Then a girl 
sitting next to one of them put her arm around her. A boy sitting behind 
them reached out to 
put his hands on their shoulders. Gradually everyone in the room became 
aware of what 
was going on. There was a palpable, collective sadness that went through 
that room.
     "The right words don't always come to me, but that day they 
did. I said, `A few 
minutes ago I read something that was hateful, and four of you laughed. 
I don't know 
that I'll ever understand that laughter. But I do understand these 
tears. That's how it 
is when prejudice, hate, and racism come home and touch someone we know 
and care about. 
No one in this room is laughing now.'"
  On a Mission
"I don't care one bit about those hubcap stealing, 
drug-dealing, Velcro hair, 
big-lipped, Alabama porch monkeys (niggers) and those short, slant-eyed, 
flat-faced, 
rice-chewing, dog-eating, tax-evading, welfare-junkie, 
smelling-worse-than-death 
gooks." - excerpt from eighth-grader's essay
"Some of the people at [our high school] scare me. When they 
grow up and are living 
in the real world, what will it be like? I think we've always stayed 
just barely within 
the bounds of disaster. The spirit of the Holocaust is definitely alive 
today. I see it 
every day and it sucks." - excerpt from 10th-grader's essay
     Scott has no illusions he'll get through to everyone in his 
audiences. All he can 
do is plant the seeds of new ways of thinking that might take root 
someday. 
     "I'm the kind of person who just has to do something like 
this," he says. "I've 
always felt that when I come to the end of my life, I want to be able to 
say, `I gave it 
my best. I made a difference.'"
     He admits that giving the presentations is draining, in terms of 
both time and 
energy. And during each program he, too, relives the Holocaust horrors. 
But in spite of the 
darkness of the story, he sees a positive impact. 
     When asked what keeps him going, he immediately responds, 
"Without question, it's 
the essays I get from young people who can tell right from wrong. It's 
the eloquence of 
their words." A case in point, extracted from the essay of an 
11th-grader:
"It appears that many ignore the words of hate, allow them 
to 
roll off their backs. 
Some cringe at the sound of the filth and even fewer stand up and shout 
the two most 
important words that could be said at a time like that - `Stop it!' It 
is because of the lack 
of courage that the flame of hate burns, and to answer the question 
posed during your 
presentation - the Holocaust does live on." 
Dianne 
Molvig operates Access Information Service, a Madison writing and 
editing service. She is a frequent contributor to area publications
 
 
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